ICYMI @JBHepler came by to talk about Glass Level Caps, DA2, Women in Game Dev & more.

Jennifer Hepler

Jennifer Hepler joined us for talk about her games writing work, Dragon Age 2, Breaking the Glass Level Cap and more.

Listen on Fresh Out of Tokens // Download the MP3  

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Questions for Jennifer


Were you consciously interrogating terrorism in the construction of Anders?

Were you consciously interrogating the willingness of authorities to benefit from oppression? (e.g. Elthina)

Does the “resolution” to the Mage-Templar war in DAI fit your original intentions? (I’m fine w/a yes/no.)

Do you have any non-game prose work out there? If so, where?

@cynixy (Anna McGill)

Q: How are you so awesome?

Follow-up Q: How do you STAY so awesome?


Who was your favorite character to write for? Who was your favorite character that you didn’t write for?

What are you currently reading?

When writing characters, how do you find a voice for them? Do you look at designs for the character or do you read a description of them? What’s your technique for this?


What kind of good can games/interactive media be used for if we stop insisting that they “just” be games

What project are you proudest to have worked on?

What we’re playing/reading/watching:

Jennifer: Her Story, 1979 Revolution, (reading) Kate Elliot’s Black Wolves

Tanya: Sims 4 with Dragon Age Mods, Moon Hunters, Fossil Echo

David: Fallout Shelter

Where to find our guest online

Twitter: @jbhepler

Women in Game Development: Breaking the Glass Level Cap [Buy on CRC Press]

Review of Women in Game Development on I Need Diverse Games

The Game Narrative Toolbox [Buy on Amazon]

Where to find your hosts online:

Tanya D.@cypheroftyr // @INeedDivGms

Twitch: twitch.tv/cypheroftyr // twitch.tv/INeedDivGames

Patreon: patreon.com/INeedDivGms // patreon.com/cypheroftyr

David L. Reeves@RedConversation

Twitch: twitch.tv/red_conversation

Patreon: patreon.com/redconversation

YAY! Our First Fanmail!!! Thank you @cyberpunkwarlok <3

first fanmailOur latest episode with Comosedicenerd has gotten us our first fanmail! WOOOO!  Transcription below in case that is too small to read:


Hello! I just wanted to say that I really loved your discussion on Dragon Age and the Hawke Immigration piece! I was really pleased that other people put as much personal stuff onto their Hawkes/Inquisitors as I do. I’ve had issues with masculinity in general and as a queer man, something that playing Mass Effect and Dragon Age have helped me with. I just wanted to say that I really loved this episode and I think that Fresh Out of Tokens is really fantastic and you all are doing great work and through this podcast I’ve been introduced to great people in the industry. (Also, if you do ever get the urge to do a Dragon Age feels podcast, I would be glad to lend my voice!)

Thank you so much for everything you guys are doing!