ICYMI – Lady Boss Varric took us to school on a lot of topics

Todd Harper, aka @laevalentine took us to school on a lot of topics; including body diversity, fat characters in videogames, LGBTQIA issues in gaming, Bayo Studies and more.

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We have tees, and other items in the #INeedDiverseGames spreadshirt shop. We’re splitting the profits 50/50 with @Chachibobinks. There’s a blog to compliment the show outoftokenscast.com If you have questions, compliments, hate mail feel free to drop a note there as well. You can also @ us on twitter; @OutOfTokensCast or email us freshoutoftokens@gmail.com.

Musical accompaniment for Fresh Out of Tokens is provided by Mike Moody. You can hear more of her work at: http://soundcloud.com/mikemoody-1

Questions for Todd:

From @Thain1982

Who is your favorite openly LGBT character in a game?

(besides Taric), what queer-coded character(s) would you most like the developers to remove ambiguity from?

Using Bo Rai Cho as shining examplar of what not to do, are there any games that get body representation right?

What game or games will you always go back to?

What’s the best thing you’ve read in the last year?

Videogames Blackness Problem – Kotaku by Evan Narcisse, Kotaku

The Three Modes of Male Sexuality in Videogames – Dante Douglas, Paste

Listener Feedback/Question about our episode with Liam Esler:

Hello to all,

Listening to latest podcast, I got to the part about entitled fans & the statement “there’s a generation that feels voiceless & the only way they know to get attention & get heard is threats” (I’m paraphrasing here, but that’s close to what was said) and I feel some kind of way about this viewpoint.

Mainly that it is, at best, incomplete. And here’s why: The people that statement can apply to and not be erroneous? Predominantly white. Also, predominantly cishet. Most of modern history, people of color, queer folks, trans folks, have known nothing BUT being ignored to outright being silenced. This feeling of being ignored isn’t a new thing for this generation of marginalized peoples/voices. And yes, the rise of social media has given us platforms for our viewpoints and ways to make our voices heard but still nowhere near the level of perspectives that have always been elevated in the dialogue.

What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks,

Jay

Articles:

http://www.chaoticblue.com/blog/2015/10/whole-hog/

http://www.chaoticblue.com/blog/2016/06/trapped/

What we’re playing:

Todd: Overwatch, Odin Sphere Leifthrasir, Shadow Hearts Covenant

Tanya: Mass Effect, Dragon Age Inquisition (modded Cullen romance)

David: modded KOTOR2

Where to find our guest online

Twitter: @laevalentine

http://www.chaoticblue.com/blog/

GDC 2015 – Portrayals and Pitfalls of Fatness (free to view on the GDC Vault)

Bayo Studies, Year One – GX3 (GaymerX YouTube)

http://gaymism.com/ Gayme Bar

GDC 2014 – How to Subversively Queer Your Work

Where to find your hosts online:

Tanya D.@cypheroftyr // @INeedDivGms

Twitch: twitch.tv/cypheroftyr // twitch.tv/INeedDivGames

Patreon: patreon.com/INeedDivGms // patreon.com/cypheroftyr

David L. Reeves@RedConversation

Twitch: twitch.tv/red_conversation

Patreon: patreon.com/redconversation

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ICYMI, We celebrated our one year anniversary with @sammusmusic!

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Sammus the Rapper came through to talk about her music, being a black nerdy girl, the importance of representation in games & in other media. We had a wonderful, candid and amazing conversation to help celebrate our one year mark.

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TW: Racial slurs used when we discuss an article in the show, so there is a warning at that point, and if you want to fast forward, you should do so for your own comfort.

We have tees, and other items in the #INeedDiverseGames spreadshirt shop. We’re splitting the profits 50/50 with @Chachibobinks. There’s a blog to compliment the show outoftokenscast.com If you have questions, compliments, hate mail feel free to drop a note there as well. You can also @ us on twitter; @OutOfTokensCast or email us freshoutoftokens@gmail.com.

Musical accompaniment for Fresh Out of Tokens is provided by Mike Moody. You can hear more of her work at: http://soundcloud.com/mikemoody-1

Questions for Enongo:

From @Thain1982:

  • What has been your most memorable performance so far?
  • Your arm cannon is badass, but is it as heavy as it looks?
  • What would you want in a new Metroid game?
  • What software do you use to make your beats and loops?

Articles:

“Nigger” and other words I learned while playing Overwatch – Top Shelf Gaming, Marcus Garrett

Why Sammus’ New EP Fusion is So Damned Important – Tanya

1 Year Anniversary notes from our listeners

@krageinsf /Juls:

Hello Tanya and David.

I just wanted to send a note about how much I love your show and how much it means to me, as someone who is NOT a gamer. I don’t play many of the games you talk about, but I started listening because of the INeedDiverseGames.

The content of your show is just superb. As a teacher, I am always looking for other sources of information to strengthen and improve my teaching/presentations. The wealth of knowledge shared by you (as hosts), your guests, and the other listeners of the show is amazing. I feel so lucky to have stumbled onto your podcast and listen in exchange for a few donations when I can scrape together the cash. (To other listeners, if you are able, PLEASE PLEASE DONATE!).

Although I am not a gamer, your show has helped me learn about pros, cons, and meh about some of the games my sister and her partner do play. There is a really great balance of enough detail that I can follow along when I watch her play, but not so overwhelming that I’m completely shut out of the discussion.

Thank you so much for your show.

Best, Juls

 

Tim (@thain1982)

I truly loved both times I got to be on Fresh Out of Tokens. I was a little nervous when I found out the episode with David and Andrew would be a free discussion, since that was my first time on any podcast, but we had a really fantastic conversation, and the Star Trek discussion we had was great fun.

Coming back to guest host the interview with BioFanOfficial was even more fun. Sharing all the Bioware feels was just fantastic, and I love that Tanya brings Bioware love up so much in the show in general.

I love the work y’all are doing, and getting to be a small part of it was a tremendous honor (and an absolute blast). Any time y’all need an emergency guest host, just say the word.

Where to find our guest online

Twitter: @sammusmusic

https://sammusmusic.com/

https://www.facebook.com/sammusmusic

https://www.youtube.com/user/sammusmusic

https://soundcloud.com/sammusmusic

Signal boosting her partner, LJ Alonge’s YA series; Blacktop

Book 1: http://bit.ly/blacktopjustin

Book 2: http://bit.ly/blacktoptjanae

Where to find your hosts online:

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Thank you so, so much for this love Sammus! ❤ ❤

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Although I’ve been laying low this summer to prep for my next full-length album and get my life back in order after a hectic semester, I haven’t completely dropped off the map. This past week I had the opportunity to chat with my homie Tanya DePass as well as her co-host David Reeves  on the 1-Year Anniversary episode of their Fresh out of Tokens podcast! For those unfamiliar Fresh out of Tokens is a “bi-weekly podcast addressing issues of diversity, inclusion, intersectionality and feminism in gaming.” We talked about all of these topics and more in this very special episode so tune in right here. And to support Tanya personally on Patreon you can head here and you can also support I Need Diverse Games by heading here.

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ICYMI – @liamesler disproved his twitter bio of all style & no substance

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Liam Esler disproves his twitter bio of all style and no substance during his visit with us! We chatted about diversity, a bit about GX Australia, challenges of diversifying in an international context and more.

 

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We have tees, and other items in the #INeedDiverseGames spreadshirt shop. We’re splitting the profits 50/50 with @Chachibobinks. There’s a blog to compliment the show outoftokenscast.com If you have questions, compliments, hate mail feel free to drop a note there as well. You can also @ us on twitter; @OutOfTokensCast or email us freshoutoftokens@gmail.com.

Musical accompaniment for Fresh Out of Tokens is provided by Mike Moody. You can hear more of her work at: http://soundcloud.com/mikemoody-1

Articles:

D Faraci – Fandom is Broken

Faraci follow up to Broken Fandom piece

From Hydra to Ghostbusters, the False Equivalences of Fan Culture (written in response to the above article)

Ghostbusters, Frozne and Strange Entitlement of Fan Culture (AV Club piece that precedes Faraci article)

Why ‘Fandom is Broken’ Bothered me so much – from David’s Patreon

Questions for Liam

From @annatarkov:

Is it a burden to be so ridiculously good-looking?

Did you major in selfies in uni?

Who are you wearing?

What we’re playing:

Liam: oh god I don’t have time for games

Tanya: Witcher 3: Blood and Wine DLC

David: Fallout 4, Morrowind (I haven’t really had time to play either, but I’ve been engaged with them in the way that I’ve been thinking about them a lot)

Where to find our guest online

Twitter: @liamesler // @gxaustralia

Game Devs of Welly talk

GDC Talk (Vault access required)

Where to find your hosts online:

Tanya D. – @cypheroftyr // @INeedDivGms

Twitch: twitch.tv/cypheroftyr // twitch.tv/INeedDivGames

Patreon: patreon.com/INeedDivGms // patreon.com/cypheroftyr

David L. Reeves@RedConversation

Twitch: twitch.tv/red_conversation

Patreon: patreon.com/redconversation

 

Our episodes with @mel_f_lem & @MidnightRem were @GarrickWinter’s faves!


We got another great listener letter to celebrate our first year!
Hey Tanya and David!

I’ve been bingeing the Fresh Out Of Token archives recently and I just wanted to say thank you for featuring Eve Eschenbacher and Mel Fleming on the podcast. I was delighted to hear from people with multilingual experiences, and I found that they both helped bring some much-needed attention the role language plays in experiencing videogames, especially Mel.

I personally grew up multilingual in a community in Canada where language is very politically charged, and the identity and political implications of language have followed me my entire life, even beyond my hometown. For just one fairly simple example, I recently started a new games job, and almost my entire first day was wasted because the office management software experienced errors and glitches when the IT folks tried to enter my non-English name. After hours of trying to fix and reconfigure things, we had to settle for (mis)spelling my name according to English conventions – and this is a problem I’ve had again and again with computer software designed by English speakers with no mind paid to non-English languages.I know language has major implications for Spanish speakers in the US, and my Taiwanese partner has talked to me about the role language players in her identity and experience as a woman of colour as well. It’s a wide-ranging and sometimes complex issue that affects many people, but (somewhat understandably I guess) gets covered so rarely in English-language games media. So thank you again for bringing on guests who can address this topic!

Love the podcast, and best of luck
Guerric Haché
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Thank you so much for your kind words Guerric!

Happy 1st Anniversary to us!

One year ago today, our first episode with Chris Algoo dropped, Prism Shells, Tres Witchers and E3 Predications.

Who knew that a show put together on a shoestring, eight hours prep time and a MP3 Skype recorder would still be here a year later? We’ll we’re still around, still getting amazing guests willing to share their stories with us.

Thank you everyone who’s been a guest, who’s sent a comment or review in on iTunes or Stitcher. Thank you to everyone who listens and sends us questions for guests, or has supported us along the way.

Thank you to Steve Lubitz of Disruption FM, Cicero Holmes, Kahlief Adams and Shareef Jackson of Spawn on Me for their guidance as I struggled with even starting a podcast.

Everyone who had advice along the way, for good or ill. Especially y’all who heard that first episode and stuck with us! ❤

Thank you to Tim (Thain1982) for his non-stop support and this lovely message to celebrate our first year:

I truly loved both times I got to be on Fresh Out of Tokens. I was a little nervous when I found out the episode with David and Andrew would be a free discussion, since that was my first time on any podcast, but we had a really fantastic conversation, and the Star Trek discussion we had was great fun.

Coming back to guest host the interview with BioFanOfficial was even more fun. Sharing all the Bioware feels was just fantastic, and I love that Tanya brings Bioware love up so much in the show in general.
I love the work y’all are doing, and getting to be a small part of it was a tremendous honor (and an absolute blast).  Any time y’all need an emergency guest host, just say the word.
-Tim (@thain1982)

Another big thank you to @krageinsf/Juls for this awesome message, which is especially touching since she’s not a gamer and find something in our show.

Hello Tanya and David.

I just wanted to send a note about how much I love your show and how much it means to me, as someone who is NOT a gamer. I don’t play many of the games you talk about, but I started listening because of the #INeedDiverseGames.
The content of your show is just superb. As a teacher, I am always looking for other sources of information to strengthen and improve my teaching/presentations. The wealth of knowledge shared by you (as hosts), your guests, and the other listeners of the show is amazing. I feel so lucky to have stumbled onto your podcast and listen in exchange for a few donations when I can scrape together the cash. (To other listeners, if you are able, PLEASE PLEASE DONATE!).
Although I am not a gamer, your show has helped me learn about pros, cons, and _meh_ about some of the games my sister and her partner do play. There is a really great balance of enough detail that I can follow along when I watch her play, but not so overwhelming that I’m completely shut out of the discussion.
Thank you so much for your show.
Best,
Juls

We’re looking forward to an even better year, and to do that we’d love your feedback! Please fill out this brief feedback form so we can improve.

Here’s our episode roster in case you’re new to the show, or missed an episode over the last year.

  1. Prism Shells, Tres Witchers and E3 Predications – Chris Algoo
  2. Hip Hop Can help you Code, and #GamingLooksGood thanks to Shareef Jackson
  3. Games Critique As POC: Pitfalls, Perils & Perls of Wisdom – Austin Walker, Katherine Cross & Tauriq Moosa
  4. Brooklyn Gamery and #BlackGameDev for the Win – Catt Small, Chris Algoo and Dennis Liaw
  5. The Great Gita Escapade
  6. We had a @WickedGood time with Steve Lubitz
  7. Caelyn is a Gem
  8. We Go Back In the Crates of our Gaming Past & More with Lauren Warren from Black Girl Nerds
  9. Tiene dos languages en est podcast; we asked @Comosedicenerd, se habla geek?
  10. Get your #AltGames fix with Jason Vega
  11. Feminist Gaming Fight Club with Amy Isaac
  12. Ladies Night – AKA HAWKE FEELS!
  13. #SwordsOfSorrow and Magical Cupcakes with Mikki Kendall
  14. GX3 & Teaching Turing with Matt Conn and Toni Rocca
  15. Navigating the Grey Areas of ACE Representation in gaming & beyond with Defira85 – Kirsty Connor
  16. Interview with a Fennec Slayer, Allan Schumacher
  17. Die Nachtblume, Twine and Pitching Tips with Katriel Paige
  18. An Altus for All Seasons, on how Dorian came to be with David Gaider
  19. Night of the Living Memes, Academics and Political Gaming bodies with Megan Condis
  20. We’re running away to the Savage Empire with Tim Lewinson
  21. We Spun the Dialogue Wheel with ChachiBobinks and Andrew Baker!
  22. Let’s Get Brainy with Deborah Budding, aka @Nebula63
  23. We re-Spawned in #Brookago with Kahlief Adams & Cicero Holmes, our podcast fam from @SpawnOnMe
  24. Double the Wu, double the fun! We got Bri-jacked by @Spacekatgal & @TheFrankWu
  25. We got our Interactive Fiction fix with Carolyn VanEseltine
  26. Bonus episode! Battle of the F-Bombs with Anthony Burch
  27. We got it on with BrothaDom behind the mic about writing, diversity and his origin story
  28. We got our Theological Geek on with Jeremy Yoder of @GeekCrossShow
  29. We rolled a nat 20 with @NJWGames
  30. A conversation with @Thain1982 and @ABakerN7 (all white men have strong opinions on Star Trek)
  31. Sangfroid_San on #GamesSoWhite, Black women in gaming and games journalism – Sidney Fussell
  32. On Monstrous Women and overly equipped police in Games with @MaxxieBytes
  33. Tevinter Family Values with @BioFanOfficial
  34. Dudes, we had the Best Chat with Holly Brockwell about Gadgette and more! (Tauriq Moosa guest co-hosting)
  35. We hit all the right notes in our convo with Guild Wars 2 dev, Lena Chappelle
  36. We got Jimquisited!
  37. Josh Samuels ‘Arrived’ to chat with us about the Taino people, representation, Arrival Game & more!
  38. We went back to the arcade with @Sparklebliss about Coin Operated Americans, masculinity and games marketing changes over the years – Carly Kocurek
  39. We got our Seven hearty dreaNABIT’s in during our chat with Simply Undrea
  40. Martin Sahlin swung by to spin a yarn about Unravel game!
  41. We realized that gaming misses a lot even with eyes wide open thanks to @snarkbat – Elsa Sjunneson-Henry
  42. We got our dose of blerd goodness when Jamie Broadnax of @BlackGirlNerds dropped by!
  43. Localization, Devil Spit, and sailing with Bioware’s Mel Fleming
  44. Meet the devs that made We Are Chicago, hear about their process and journey to make this game. Cindy Miller, Michael Block & Guest Co-Host, Shareef Jackson
  45. We cast a temporal spell and landed at Midnight with Eve Eschenbacher
  46. Games Critique as POC re-release, Directors cut😛 Austin Walker, Katherine Cross & Tauriq Moosa
  47. Pop Culture Covens and Hipster Holy Priestesses – Tzufit A.
  48. We Rolled a Critical Hit for tabletop Diversity with Donna Prior
  49. We’re so glad that Meg Jayanth is in the gaming industry
  50. Twitch, Bioware feels and fandom with LadyInsanity – Ashe Soriano
  51. Liam Esler disproves his twitter bio of all style and no substance during his visit with us!

ICYMI – We spoke with @ladyinsanity about Twitch, Bioware feels, fandom & more

We discussed Twitch, Bioware feels, hopes for Mass Effect: Andromeda and what Ashe does in her limited spare time.

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We have tees, and other items in the #INeedDiverseGames spreadshirt shop. We’re splitting the profits 50/50 with @Chachibobinks. There’s a blog to compliment the show outoftokenscast.com

If you have questions, compliments, hate mail feel free to drop a note there as well. You can also @ us on twitter; @OutOfTokensCast or email us freshoutoftokens@gmail.com.

Musical accompaniment for Fresh Out of Tokens is provided by Mike Moody. You can hear more of her work at:http://soundcloud.com/mikemoody-1

Questions for Ashe:

Via @lasersushi:

Curious to know if you had any experience/tips for how to become a twitch partner in Europe (Germany) I’m sorry it’s super specific! Just so curious since most twitch partners here have lower figures than in NA.

In general terms, any tips for applying at twitch would be appreciated as well ❤

Via @Pringtella:

What’s your favorite BioWare romance and why?

What’s your favorite type of cheese?

Via @Thain1982:

Which Bioware franchise (past or present) has your favorite lore?

If you could bring a Bioware franchise back (or put it back in their hands), which one would it be?

Does your background in esports help or affect your work with Twitch in any way?

What we’re playing:

Ashe: Fallout 4 (Far Harbor), Star Wars: The Old Republic (Knights of the Fallen Empire)

Tanya: Uncharted 4, FenQuisitor

David: Fallout 4 (Far Harbor), Sword of the Stars

Where to find our guest online

Where to find your hosts online:

Tanya D.@cypheroftyr // @INeedDivGms

Twitch: twitch.tv/cypheroftyr // twitch.tv/INeedDivGames

Patreon: patreon.com/INeedDivGms // patreon.com/cypheroftyr

David L. Reeves@RedConversation

Twitch: twitch.tv/red_conversation

Patreon: patreon.com/redconversation

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Send us questions & comments for our 1 year anniversary episode!

Hey y’all,

Can you believe it’s nearly been a year since we first went on air? Neither can we! We are lucky and honored enough to have Sammus Music as our guest this week to help us celebrate our milestone.

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So send in questions for ! She’s helping us celebrate our 1 year anniversary!! You can @ us at OutOfTokensCast on twitter, email us at freshoutoftokens@gmail.com or @ one of the hosts, @cypheroftyr or @RedConversation on twitter.

If you’ve been a guest, or have thoughts on this first year, drop us a note so we can share it when we record on Wednesday, June 8th with Sammus.

Here’s our episode roster in case you’re new to the show, or missed an episode over the last year.

  1. Prism Shells, Tres Witchers and E3 Predications – Chris Algoo
  2. Hip Hop Can help you Code, and #GamingLooksGood thanks to Shareef Jackson
  3. Games Critique As POC: Pitfalls, Perils & Perls of Wisdom – Austin Walker, Katherine Cross & Tauriq Moosa
  4. Brooklyn Gamery and #BlackGameDev for the Win – Catt Small, Chris Algoo and Dennis Liaw
  5. The Great Gita Escapade
  6. We had a @WickedGood time with Steve Lubitz
  7. Caelyn is a Gem
  8. We Go Back In the Crates of our Gaming Past & More with Lauren Warren from Black Girl Nerds
  9. Tiene dos languages en est podcast; we asked @Comosedicenerd, se habla geek?
  10. Get your #AltGames fix with Jason Vega
  11. Feminist Gaming Fight Club with Amy Isaac
  12. Ladies Night – AKA HAWKE FEELS!
  13. #SwordsOfSorrow and Magical Cupcakes with Mikki Kendall
  14. GX3 & Teaching Turing with Matt Conn and Toni Rocca
  15. Navigating the Grey Areas of ACE Representation in gaming & beyond with Defira85 – Kirsty Connor
  16. Interview with a Fennec Slayer, Allan Schumacher
  17. Die Nachtblume, Twine and Pitching Tips with Katriel Paige
  18. An Altus for All Seasons, on how Dorian came to be with David Gaider
  19. Night of the Living Memes, Academics and Political Gaming bodies with Megan Condis
  20. We’re running away to the Savage Empire with Tim Lewinson
  21. We Spun the Dialogue Wheel with ChachiBobinks and Andrew Baker!
  22. Let’s Get Brainy with Deborah Budding, aka @Nebula63
  23. We re-Spawned in #Brookago with Kahlief Adams & Cicero Holmes, our podcast fam from @SpawnOnMe
  24. Double the Wu, double the fun! We got Bri-jacked by @Spacekatgal & @TheFrankWu
  25. We got our Interactive Fiction fix with Carolyn VanEseltine
  26. Bonus episode! Battle of the F-Bombs with Anthony Burch
  27. We got it on with BrothaDom behind the mic about writing, diversity and his origin story
  28. We got our Theological Geek on with Jeremy Yoder of @GeekCrossShow
  29. We rolled a nat 20 with @NJWGames
  30. A conversation with @Thain1982 and @ABakerN7 (all white men have strong opinions on Star Trek)
  31. Sangfroid_San on #GamesSoWhite, Black women in gaming and games journalism – Sidney Fussell
  32. On Monstrous Women and overly equipped police in Games with @MaxxieBytes
  33. Tevinter Family Values with @BioFanOfficial
  34. Dudes, we had the Best Chat with Holly Brockwell about Gadgette and more! (Tauriq Moosa guest co-hosting)
  35. We hit all the right notes in our convo with Guild Wars 2 dev, Lena Chappelle
  36. We got Jimquisited!
  37. Josh Samuels ‘Arrived’ to chat with us about the Taino people, representation, Arrival Game & more!
  38. We went back to the arcade with @Sparklebliss about Coin Operated Americans, masculinity and games marketing changes over the years – Carly Kocurek
  39. We got our Seven hearty dreaNABIT’s in during our chat with Simply Undrea
  40. Martin Sahlin swung by to spin a yarn about Unravel game!
  41. We realized that gaming misses a lot even with eyes wide open thanks to @snarkbat – Elsa Sjunneson-Henry
  42. We got our dose of blerd goodness when Jamie Broadnax of @BlackGirlNerds dropped by!
  43. Localization, Devil Spit, and sailing with Bioware’s Mel Fleming
  44. Meet the devs that made We Are Chicago, hear about their process and journey to make this game. Cindy Miller, Michael Block & Guest Co-Host, Shareef Jackson
  45. We cast a temporal spell and landed at Midnight with Eve Eschenbacher
  46. Games Critique as POC re-release, Directors cut 😛 Austin Walker, Katherine Cross & Tauriq Moosa
  47. Pop Culture Covens and Hipster Holy Priestesses – Tzufit A.
  48. We Rolled a Critical Hit for tabletop Diversity with Donna Prior
  49. We’re so glad that Meg Jayanth is in the gaming industry
  50. Twitch, Bioware feels and fandom with LadyInsanity – Ashe Soriano